[PetiteCloud] PetiteCloud on FreeBSD 10.0 with bhyve

[Aryeh Friedman]

1. We are aiming to drastically improve the CUI in 0.3 (make it so it can
take args and api also)
2. We assumed all access would be via the net (standard for the cloud
computing world) input on how to balance this would be nice
3. The vm naming is only to make it so it is impossible to enter a invalid
name in the webUI we are currently looking at different naming scheme and
would like input (keep in mind bhyve is limited to 15 char names)


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Dave Smith <dsmith at johncompanies.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Emails from Aryeh helped, and I got it up and running.  The directions
> are missing the step that starts tomcat7 and set it up to automatically
> come up on boot.  A list of binary packages that could be installed
> without having to re-compile the world would help greatly.  I don't
> think gcc, perl5, tomcat7, openjdk, qemu-devel, or python27 need to be
> recompiled from scratch.  These take a huge amount of time and
> frustration as several of these were broken and required fetching files
> from the web instead of automatically from the servers.
>
> It is missing a few features that I wanted.  The naming of the VMs and
> mapping is not useful from a command line.  I had trouble getting the
> console access to work.  The ability to see/modify files inside the VM
> from outside was not there.
>
> Because I was having so much trouble getting it to work, I started
> playing with vmrc.  I found it to be more mature and I am more easily
> able to modify it to my needs at the moment.
>
> I would still like to see PetiteCloud progress.  If I was able to marry
> vmrc with the PetiteCloud, it would be the best of both worlds.  Then I
> could have a non-FreeBSD-command-line-savvy operator do most of the day
> to day work, and I could still manipulate things under the hood with the
> command line.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Dave
>   dsmith at johncompanies.com
>
> On 6/18/2014 6:12 PM, Michael Thoreson wrote:
> > I have been trying to test it myself but with limited success as well
> > due to poor documentation. I was working on trying to clear up the
> > documentation as i worked through it.
> >
> > The project is not a hoax but rather very short on members with enough
> > free time at the moment to really push it along. It has been several
> > months (due to a couple deaths in the family and other personal matters)
> > since I have had any time to work on it but it does have some potential
> > that I to would like to use in a production environment.
> >
> > Would appreciate further insights you have and i will try looking into
> > the documentation some more.
> >
> > Michael Thoreson,
> >
> >
> > On 16/06/2014 3:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Is PetiteCloud just a hoax to prove the premise that recursive make is
> >> harmful (as stated in one of your links)?
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried following the directions described on the website to
> >> install PetiteCloud on a fresh FreeBSD 10.0 installation using bhyve?
> >>
> >> Here are my results.  I installed FreeBSD 10.0 and did a freebsd-update
> >> to get to patch level 5.  I tried at least 4 times using some binary
> >> installs and at least one complete port install.
> >>
> >> 1. The make install takes about 2-4 hours on a fairly fast machine.
> >>
> >> 2. It tries to recompile everything from the ports collections instead
> >> of using any binary pkg installs.  This includes gcc, perl5, xlib, qemu,
> >> and many other things that take enormous amounts of time to re-compile.
> >>
> >> 3. It does not install Apache, which is required to run the Tomcat that
> >> PetiteCloud appears it use to implement the user interface.
> >>
> >> 4. The directions say to use port 8080, but I can not find any attempt
> >> to set up Apache on port 8080.
> >>
> >> 5. The make system fails and stops for missing pieces or sources at
> >> least 3 times.  It also stops very many times to demand configuration
> >> input, which requires constant monitoring during the entire make
> >> process. (I realize these are probably problems with the FreeBSD ports
> >> collection.)
> >>
> >> 6. Instructions telling me to go to
> >>      http://127.0.0.1:8080/petitecloud-aryeh-0.2.6
> >> assumes I am running this on my work station and not on a server.
> >>
> >> I am not a complete novice at this.  I have a long career writing
> >> software and doing system administration.  I was unable to get this to
> >> install and operate correctly with 4 attempts.  I could probably
> >> continue and eventually get PetiteCloud to work, but I am not sure I
> >> have the time to invest anymore.
> >>
> >> I wanted to use this in a production environment, but it appears that
> >> PetiteCloud is not ready for that.
> >>
> >> I would really like to know if anyone has successfully followed the
> >> instructions as I have done?
> >>
> >> Dave Smith
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Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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